Fig. 1 – The as-rolled, as-machined, as-drawn surface finish will add the appropriate amount of surface “roughness” to the part to aid in capillary action of BFM through the brazed joint.

Over the years it has shown that the best surface for brazing, generally speaking, is the “as-received” (as-rolled, as-drawn, as-machined, etc.) surface roughness of the material coming into the brazing shop. An illustration of what this surface roughness might look like, under high magnification, is shown in Fig. 1.

Surface roughness obviously increases the total surface area of each faying surface inside the joint, when compared to a flat, polished surface. And, due to this “roughness”, it can be seen that there are many capillary paths for brazing filler metal (BFM) to follow between all the valleys and “peaks” on that roughened surface.

Surface roughness refers to the “texture” of a surface, the measurement of which is often expressed in several different ways, including Ra (Roughness average), RMS (Root Mean Square), AA (Arithmetic Average), and CLA (Center Line Average). I’ve found RMS to be a frequently used measure in my brazing experience. Others may perhaps have found otherwise.

Is there a conversion-chart that people can use to compare these different surface-roughness values? Yes! The company, L.J. Star Inc., has published the following excellent chart, reproduced in Table 1, which provides comparisons between several different surface-roughness measures. What I like about this chart is that it also adds in a column for “grit-polishing” for approximate comparison to the other columns. “Ra” is in microns (metric), whereas the remaining three columns are all measured in micro-inches. Please note that this chart represents just one possible approach to this topic of roughness-comparisons. But I have found the chart to be helpful, and pass it along to readers here.

For the balance of this article I will be using RMS for my discussion of surface-roughness. In my experience, RMS surface-roughness may range from about 16 RMS, to 32 RMS, 64 RMS, or even 125 RMS or greater when it comes to the as-received, as-machined, or as-drawn surface roughness of the part to be brazed. Please remember once again that RMS means “root mean square”, and is a mathematical average between the peaks and valleys of the surface roughness.

This chart is part of an excellent discussion of surface roughness provided by L.J. Starr Inc. on their website, which I highly recommend that the reader go to

NOTE: This chart is part of an excellent discussion of surface roughness provided by L.J. Starr Inc. on their website, which I highly recommend that the reader go to.

Do I Need Spacers to Keep Faying Surfaces Apart?

The as-received, as-machined, as-drawn surface-roughness of the part being brazed should allow parts to be assembled without the need for adding any “spacers” in between the surfaces to be brazed such as many people do in order to provide a specific amount of gap clearance between the two faying surfaces of the joint. By allowing so-called “metal-to-metal contact” between the parts being brazed, the surface roughness of the faying surfaces should therefore be quite sufficient to allow brazing filler metal (BFM) to flow through the gaps created by the surface roughness of each component, even when those surfaces are touching each other (so-called “zero clearance” between the surfaces).

Should Faying Surfaces Be Polished Prior to Brazing?

Generally speaking, no, it is not recommended to polish the metal surface prior to brazing. Some people have felt that polishing of the surfaces was needed in order to make them clean and smooth enough to allow brazing to occur between those surfaces. That’s not really true at all. Polishing the faying surfaces will remove the surface-roughness peaks on those faying surfaces, and, with metal-to-metal contact fit-up (zero-clearance) prior to brazing, could actually shut off the possibility of any capillary flow into the joint by molten BFM applied to the outside of brazing joints (such as when paste is applied at the outside edge of a joint). Such a situation would then, in fact, require the addition of some kind of shims between the faying surfaces to allow molten BFM to flow into those joints from the outside.

Important Note: Having said that, please note that if the BFM is pre-placed as a preform inside the joint (such as with a BFM foil), or if the BFM has already been roll-bonded (clad) to the faying surfaces prior to assembly of the parts, then, upon heating to brazing temp, the BFM will merely melt in place inside the joint, and will be able to alloy with, and bond to, the base metal surfaces without any problems, irrespective of whether the faying surfaces were rough or polished ahead of time.

Thus, the surface-roughness of the faying surfaces is really only a concern when the BFM is going to be applied outside the joint and needs some joint clearance in order to be able to flow into the joint from the outside by capillary action.

Increased Joint Strength via Surface Roughness?

Questions have also been raised about the relationship of joint strength to surface roughness. Will a rougher surface, with its larger peaks and valleys (and thus greater surface area inside the joint) give the joint enhanced joint strength when compared to a similar part with polished faying surfaces in the joint? Although I will not deny that possibility, the nature of the question seems to assume a higher importance to the “mechanical gripping” action to prevent sliding (in shear) of a brazed joint, than to the metallurgical bonding that occurs inside a brazed joint due to the diffusion of the BFM into the base metals that invariably occurs in any good brazed joint.

Much then depends on the nature of the service conditions that the parts will encounter after brazing. If the components are to be used in a way that the brazed joints will see heavy shear forces, then increased surface roughness may be helpful. For that matter, perhaps even further support to the joint could be made by designing it with a shoulder in the joint to prevent slippage/sliding via shear loading. The use of a pin or threaded screw might also be desirable.

But if the part is to be used in only tensile or compressive loading (perpendicular to the brazed joint) such as stamping dies, etc., then added surface roughness may not be sufficiently advantageous to warrant the extra labor and process procedures to further roughen the faying surfaces prior to braze.


Surface roughness of the faying surfaces inside a joint to be brazed should always be taken into account prior to assembly of the parts for brazing. Normally, the as-received, as-drawn, as-machined finish is perfectly adequate for brazing, with no further work required to roughen or smoothen those surfaces.

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